0:00 Hi everyone. Uh this is Amanda Casease here with Real Estate Case by Casease and I'm here with Samantha Knap from Tiger Lilies, a design company in Greenwich. Thank you for coming.
0:10 Oh, you're so welcome. So glad to be here. I'm glad you especially after a storm.
0:13 Thank you for making the effort to get here.
0:15 Yeah, boots and all. So yeah. Do you want to show everyone your boots quickly? Oh my gosh. But fine if you say so.
0:21 Yeah, there's two of them. Yeah. Yeah. Because you're a designer. You're a decorator. It's awesome.
0:27 Thank you for coming. Uh, first of all, tell me a little bit about Tiger Lilies.
0:31 Okay, so Tiger Lilies is a family business. I think that you know that because interestingly enough, Amanda and I went to high school together. So, we're pretty familiar with each other.
0:39 But the family business started, I would say about 25 or 30 years ago with my parents. They decided they were my mom actually to backtrack was in the textile
0:47 business and then my dad felt like she wasn't doing what she needed to get done and he kind of gave her an ultimatum.
0:53 They opened a storefront and it just organically grew from there. So, I would say like for myself, I'm sort of a street designer because I didn't have a
1:02 passion for it honestly to be honest when I started. Actually, believe it or not, you might not know this, but as a Greenwich High School cardinal, there
1:10 had there was like an interior design class and I took it thinking, "Oh my gosh, my parents are interior designers.
1:15 This is going to be so easy. I'll just plug it in." And I failed. So, I got a D. It was like my only D in high school.
1:23 So, I said to myself, I'll never go where my parents are in this world and I'm going to pave my own path, which I did for a good few years. I was um a
1:31 news reporter. I traveled a lot through CBS and then I came back to Greenwich and jumped into the family business. And from there, I started learning like what
1:39 my parents were doing. They're custom interior designers, my parents, and we have an interior design workroom on site. So we have sewers, upholsterers,
1:46 we have tile, uh paint colors, textiles, trims, you name it, we have it indoors in Tiger Lilies. And again, like I said,
1:54 as it started pretty organic, it's remained even throughout all of these years pretty organic with like word of mouth clients and um building concepts for design from the ground up.
2:05 Right. Right. What has been your most rewarding project that you've done to date?
2:12 Um, this is sort of a no-brainer. If anybody's familiar with Tommy Hilfiger, uh, he's my
2:20 Tommy's my most rewarding because it's just such an honor. He's such a talented man. He has such, you know, a a brand
2:27 and a company and a worldwide recognition. And for a man like that to come to me and say, "Sam, I trust you with the interior design of my um home
2:36 in Mystique, the islands in the Caribbean.
2:38 Um, it's actually the British West Indies." is really specifically what it's called.
2:43 Mystique. Uh he gave me that project and I ran with it. I think one of the things that really made him happy was that we had the custom design. So we were very
2:52 easily able to embellish everything that he was looking for, whether it be like draperies with trim or um a sofa
3:00 reupholstery, custom slip covers. And Tommy's just this really really easy guy to work with and he knows what he likes.
3:06 And once you get into his head and you know sort of what he wants, he kind of does it really fast. He'll say like, you know, present me the top four or five
3:14 things and he'll make a choice and then we're, you know, guns blazing ahead. And um that's really an honor for me to have
3:21 um such a fantastic famous, you know, man who's just created such a brand and
3:28 such imagery, right, of his own in in an iconic way to say, "Hey, Sam, I trust you right in my home." So, I would say
3:35 that's kind of my really big one. And then, you know, interestingly enough, we have a couple of our little um stars,
3:42 including I shouldn't say little, Diana Ross. You know, she's our client.
3:47 Yeah. So, she's pretty great and she's really hands-on, too. So, it's interesting. You know, we run from like, you know, very kind of name brand and
3:55 someone that you might recognize to someone who might come in and just ask us for a pillow, and we treat everybody the same, but it's interesting to know.
4:03 um people in different lights like you know everybody knows their Diana Ross for example right and I know her as somebody who comes into the store is
4:12 very hands-on she's tactile she knows what she likes too she's got an artistic flare you know she's in music so she kind of has a brand for herself and she
4:21 designs in that way right um and it's really kind of interesting and amazing and I'll tell you one cute story um we were doing her master bedroom over and
4:29 she really wanted things to move quickly and um We were just going over the floor plan and then she pulled out like a scrap paper at the store and she sort of
4:38 like jotted the stuff down about where she saw all the uh furniture going and what fabrics she wanted to assign after we picked them and then she sort of signed it and she's
4:46 like would this move it any faster and you know we we both sort of smiled and uh we got it done and she was really happy. Does she sing while you're working?
4:55 Definitely not. You know she's she's really she's there. She's fast. She knows what she likes and um you know And
5:02 another one I would actually say, I mean, and then I'll go down to like other questions, but Martha Stewart, she's also um come in and and spread
5:10 some love at Tiger Lily. We did a lot of outdoor furniture for her and her property.
5:15 Wow. I mean, I think a lot of people have lived in it vicariously through Instagram. She posts a lot about it. Yes.
5:21 But to be on that property is is just something else, you know? It's it's really um picture perfect. I saw a great video
5:29 of her during the storm that she posted and she was in her ATV with her big dogs plowing and I was like, I hope I hope I'm like that. Yeah.
5:36 When I'm that age plowing the snow with my dog.
5:39 She loves her dogs and you know she loves her animals. She loves you know she's so passionate about so many things and I think you know you don't as I said
5:47 know who you're going to get. You you think you know the person and then they come in or they interact with you and you realize you know to be honest they're clients too. not that different and you know their wants are the same.
5:57 Their desires to make their homes really pretty and um you know a place where they can create memories and feel warm that's all still there.
6:04 Yeah. Yeah. So by contrast what's been the most challenging project you've ever done?
6:12 That's also an interesting question. I would maybe say logistics, but we're actually pretty good with logistics. So um I would say it's people that um don't
6:20 know what they want, right? or they have um a lot of voices in their head. And I I mean that, you know, really in the
6:28 nicest way. It's not like bipolarism, but it's sort of like maybe and you know, I I don't want to say it in a way that feels offensive in any way, but I
6:36 would say, you know, sometimes we get like a click, you know, even after high school, you know, we were a click and then you go on and you meet your people,
6:45 whether it's in the preschools, the the grade schools, and these become your friends, too, right? And so within these clicks, maybe you get one client and then they sort of refer you to another.
6:55 So that's the plus side, right? Where you get more business and more referrals from someone who you did a great job for. And that's such a blessing, right?
7:02 And then the flip side is the person with maybe within that group that might be indecisive and not know. And maybe one friend comes over and she says,
7:10 "Well, I would do this." And then the other friend comes over and says, "Well, I think it should go this way." And then the third person comes over and says, "You should do what I did and she did
7:18 what that one did." And maybe they don't all have the same designer. And by the end, you know, this client of yours, this hypothetical client, right? She's
7:26 so like stressed out. She doesn't know where to go. She wants to make it right for her kids. She wants to make it right for, you know, her lifestyle, so to
7:34 speak, right?
7:35 And she there it becomes like, I can't make a decision because I there's, you know, the famous line, too many chiefs, not enough Indians.
7:43 100%. So, um, that I would say is probably the hardest, um, type of client to work with, someone who just is like hearing too many people.
7:52 And I always try and get back to like, let's just dial it back. What do you want, right? What colors do you like?
7:58 What uh, things have to function for your family, right?
8:02 And um, hopefully we can get it back to the beginning. But that I would say maybe has its challenges.
8:08 Your biggest challenge. We find that sometimes in real estate when a client comes in with both sets of parents and their decorator and so on and so forth and there are so many people giving them
8:16 input and they want their input that's why they're bringing them but sometimes it gets a little a little challenging and you want to just bring it back to the main person and what they
8:24 want. What do you want? Do you like this? Do you not like this?
8:27 Yeah, I I I think I think that's a really big point and you know just to trust your gut and to know what really works for you. Look, if people like you,
8:35 they're going to want you to be happy or want your house to feel like it's supposed to feel no matter what you choose and you know, whatever the house is. And you know,
8:44 getting back to that, that's always um a fun challenge I would say when someone comes to me and they say, "Okay, I want to buy a house. You know what I like?
8:51 You've been in maybe my smaller house.
8:52 Now I'm going to look for something else or even if it's a beach house or um a second home, right? Like what do you think are my needs and how can we best
9:01 get them met?" And a lot of times, and I know you know this as a realtor, it's not always what you're looking at, but what it can become.
9:07 Right. Right. That was going to be my next question. If someone comes to you and says, "I'm I'm just bought my first or my forever home and my budget only allotss for phases of
9:16 design." Where do you suggest they start? That's a really good question.
9:19 The first thing I say to people always is live in the space, right?
9:23 And try and bring what you have. You know, I see this a lot with clients that come out of the city, right? They're like, I don't want any of that stuff.
9:30 I've been lived in a crammed house. I want it all gone. But you know what I love to say is you don't know what you don't know until you get there, right?
9:38 So there's no rush. There's no formal equation on how to get in and make these punch lists work. But the best thing you
9:46 can do is get in, get get your feet in the door, live there, say, you know what, I actually like this room. I thought it was going to be a full dining room, but now I like to have cocktails
9:55 in there, too. Right? or, you know, this room is too big and I never had an office and is there a way that we can bring somebody in and, you know,
10:02 renovate it and do something else. And I find sometimes with a lot of clients when they rush and they say, "Oh, I just I just want it done. I just want it done." They make
10:11 decisions that they're going to regret because it ends up being like slightly commercial because they don't always bring the designer in at that point,
10:19 right? They're like they're like, "I I I just wanted to get it. I didn't know what I was doing. So, I went to, and by the way, when I say this, I don't mean
10:26 to degrade any stores because I think everybody makes a beautiful product for the right person, but like they'll say like, "Oh, I went to Restoration
10:33 Hardware. Um, I bought everything from there, and now can you make my house unique?" And it's like you can and you can't, but um the first
10:41 phase would be get in the door, move, take a deep breath, like enjoy the house, see who she or he is. You know, houses have a personality.
10:51 Every house tells a story.
10:52 Every house tells a story. Like, where is the best light? Where do you want to sit? How many people do you want to sit?
10:58 Like, where what's the flow? And is the flow right even? Cuz sometimes if you're decorating for one room and the room's
11:05 not right, you've invested all this money only to have somebody professionally come in and say to you, "Well, you know, probably you should
11:13 move this wall and get a formal like hallway or expand a stairwell or any of these." And of course, these are all hypothetical, right? And in your head,
11:21 you're like, "Oh my gosh, I just spent all this money." Um, and now I'm more stressed than I was before I got in. Yeah.
11:29 So, I would say first thing would be, you know, maybe paint. Yeah.
11:33 If if it's if it's something that's important to you. A lot of times we come into houses that are all gray. Yeah. Or all white.
11:39 Y I prefer all white over all gray, but um maybe paint is an easy solution. It's it's and then you know and then like I
11:47 like to say like the skeleton like you're going to need a bed. Okay, maybe it's maybe at this point it's only like a mattress and a box springing and until
11:56 you can decide on the perfect headboard or maybe you have a guest room where you can say I can commit to a headboard that I don't possibly think is going to be
12:04 the grand scheme right and then maybe pass it on to another room and then get my forever bed.
12:09 Right. Right. But um you know just to go full circle on that thought, the the challenge is whether you bring in if if
12:17 you don't love your own taste or you think you need help with your own taste.
12:20 Um if you don't have somebody on your team before you move, just move with ease and and don't make too many hard
12:27 decisions until you get in. And then you know the flip side is we have people who buy and they want everything done before they come in, right? And that's an
12:35 that's a process too. It's a different type of process and the stages then become slightly different.
12:40 Um, so there's no right answer to that question. Oh, got it. Okay.
12:45 Bringing it back to paint. Uh, true or false? Paint is your best friend.
12:49 Um, I would say true. You know, I think that's something that you and I talked about. There's so many different ways paint can be used. What colors are you seeing right now?
12:56 Um, well, it depends on walls or on like furniture all around, you know. Well, one of the things that we're seeing is a big trend right now is
13:04 custom pops in cabinetry. So, you know, it's not your old white kitchen.
13:09 I know we just talked about that, which I'm doing. Amanda's doing a white kitchen.
13:12 Well, I do have a navy piece to it. So, yeah. Well, see, there is that. There's a pop component. And even in the whites, there is about a thousand different
13:20 whites. So I went, you know, interestingly enough, to a stone yard with my client to look at whites, and we were between this like leachy white,
13:28 which is a Benjamin Moore color, and dim, which is a pharaoh and ball color.
13:32 Now, none of them are true white, but they're white, right?
13:35 So you you had to see us. We went three different days, three different lights to compare which of the whites we thought was quote the white. Right.
13:43 Right.
13:43 So that's kind of interesting, too. So you can do custom and white. It's not the white, you know, that everybody gets, but we'll see. Yeah. Um, so color
13:51 in terms of um, saturation. Yeah. Um, wine red is back and it was interesting like you kind of have to start if you're
13:59 going to design for the future or are you going to design for right now, right? You know, for a long time like green was the it color. Um, for the over
14:06 the last five years, everyone thought like, oh, I'll put a pop of green. It'll be green cabinetry. And you know, and now even though green is still popular, I say to my clients like, do we want
14:15 someone to come in and say this happened in 2020 between 2020 and 2022 or 25 and we know when she did her renovation, or
14:23 do we want to go with a color that you love? Um, I'm seeing, you know, a lot of truth in what, um, I think it's Panone
14:32 comes out with the quote unquote colors of the year. 2026 right now is like a mauve.
14:37 It's kind of like a tan pink. So, I think the idea of gray is gone and people are going back to tans, right?
14:44 So, tan, wheat, um, and and warmth in that area, but not necessarily like a blue or a green becomes this new like
14:53 kind of mauvey, something with a little bit of of red to it. So, like I said, we're seeing wine red, which actually is a fine bas of Europe color.
15:02 And we see it in preference red from Pharaoh and Ball. That's another really popular like strong like red, right? And it's really funny and I think that you
15:10 can probably relate to this. Like you know, you think about how you grew up.
15:13 What were the colors and I'm like, well, there was always the houses that had like the burgundy uh wine, right? Like the hunter greens and a little bit of
15:22 yellow. So that was like a look and it feels like we're bringing it back, right? Like now people are still into the greens and then when they want to go into maybe a slightly different
15:30 direction, they're like, "Well, maybe we can do like um this preference red." And so I'm doing it in a lot of like butler's pantries, which I think is an
15:37 easy spot, or like um like a powder room or someplace that it's a commitment, but it's not your full life.
15:44 Right. Right. It's almost kind of like a little feature that you see when you go into this room. Oh, I love that. Yeah, I love that.
15:50 You actually just organically brought me back to my next question, which is what trends, you know, they they say that design trends are cyclical. What is
15:57 coming back? It sounds like these are the colors that are coming back. Do you see anything in the way of furniture? Are people going clunky or slim?
16:05 Yeah. One of the things that's kind of interesting right now is tambour. And I think a lot of people are familiar with it. It's like sort of that grooved wood
16:13 and it's had its moment. It's like really hot. Everybody in their kitchens from like their kitchens to their bathrooms to a lot of when you're doing
16:21 custom cabinetry, which I do a lot of, right?
16:23 So, um, that's very hot. And I often wonder, and you know, I hate to say it, but I think to myself, is this going to be relevant in four years, or is
16:32 somebody going to come to this house and be so sick and tired of tambour and be like, "Oh, I I knew the designer that did that." Right. Right.
16:39 Or, you know, shiplap, for example, that was really popular. What What would you say that was like the 2010s to 2020?
16:46 Like everybody wanted shiplap in the kitchens, and the bathroom, in the dining room. Yes. And now people who like want that mill work feel or
16:53 something that's like really hefty on their walls as a wall covering, they're more going to like maybe a tambber look.
17:00 But I love it. So, you know, the other trick and the other lesson is live with what you love because it'll never get old, right?
17:06 So, even the houses that I go into now where I'm like, "Oh, I remember when I did shiplap and now it's not that popular, but I'll go in and think, I still love that house." You know, they
17:15 still love that house. So, um, that I probably think would be one of the things that like is kind of a question
17:22 like is it going to stay, is it going to go, and are we going to see it? You know, I like to think of it as like cyclical and tides, like, you know, is a tide pulling it out and bringing it back in.
17:31 So, you have maybe, like you said, some colors that are back and forth. I would say um maybe pops in and marble colors.
17:38 Yeah, that's really big right now. We used to only say like Carrera and I know you probably know this when you're selling a house it's like white kitchen
17:45 Carrera counters and like call it a day with like a navy island pop. So now I'm a lot more like going
17:53 with this like all these beautiful marbles that are coming out and working against the marble, making the marble the star and saying, "Okay, this is she or he is so pretty.
18:03 Like I want her to have like this green that's slightly in the marble that you know now can become the vanity color or the cabinetry color, right?"
18:11 Um I think that's interesting. And then you know that kind of maybe I would say that kind of um
18:19 shag look or like I I to me anyway like it feels like these like I don't know maybe like 70s funky like that's what
18:28 I'm attracted to. You mean like in the rugs in the way of rugs and stuff?
18:31 Rugs and like maybe some of the furniture. And then of course the 1980s is having its own kind of resurgence with like I would say like not they're
18:40 not new traditionals and I don't know if they're millennials. I don't know what the next one is, but it's sort of this like new Mexican kind of look with like a lot of round and curves. So that's
18:49 coming back. I love that. and like things that are like bloated a little bit like over like the chairs that just have these like ginormous round arms and you're like
18:58 wait you know I saw that in my mom's house and that was the first thing I told her to get rid of when she tried to sell right but now it's like maybe you should bring
19:05 that back and I'll say one other thing about things that coming back and never get old is if you do have something that is um a family piece something that you
19:14 remember something that gives you nostalgia I say to you keep that let's work with it Because something that's valuable to you again is something that can like transcend time.
19:24 It's priceless. Yeah. Yeah. Exactly. Are there any trends that you hope never come back?
19:30 Um let's see. Uh like you can they can remain time.
19:36 Give me some ideas of like what what you're thinking and I'll say if I if I think so or not.
19:40 Well, I was going to say shag rugs, but it sounds like they're coming back and Yeah, I love them, but like they're not always coming back because then again we go back to function like
19:47 Right. Exactly. Can your house handle it if you've got three kids and two dogs and like a cat that throws up? No. No.
19:53 The answer is like yes, there's functionality and and then there's design. And I find like how do you find the happy intersection there?
20:01 Um where someone could live comfortably, but they're like don't when we were growing up, my my parents redid their house at one point and we weren't
20:08 allowed to go in certain rooms for for years. They were like, "Don't go in the living room. Don't go in the living.
20:12 Don't sit on that couch." Well, and it's funny, you know, as you know, I'm a new mom. Congratulations. I do. Yes, baby. I used to He just turned one. He's adorable.
20:22 He's really great. So, I used to always have these clients that would talk to me about function. Like, well, my kids in the room and he's and he's this and she's that and like, you know, they're
20:30 going to spill. And I used to like in my mind think like what does it really matter? Like, if you love something, just buy it. Who cares? Right?
20:38 And then I had my first vomit on the rug. And then I had my first like his hands are like sticky and then he just walks all over things and like chews and
20:45 drops and I'm like I finally hear you ladies. I get it now.
20:50 Come back. I have answers to all those problems.
20:52 Yeah. What do you tell people? Is there some kind of synthetic something or other? I mean Scotch Guard.
20:57 I scotch Guard. But what is really popular right now and all like companies are really doing it is performance.
21:03 So there is like pre-treated fabrics out there. um you know vinyls that look like leathers, those are really great, but you know that also you have to weigh the
21:11 pros and the cons. I'm I'm not so like worried about it, but there are people out there that worry about the chemical enhancements to textiles or they want
21:20 something organic in their home and they don't want anything, you know, oversprayed over synthetic inside their homes or chemicals. So you run the risk
21:27 of like is it better that like you can spill wine on it or your kid can you know um take his like packet and and you know squeeze it on your sofa which is
21:36 new to me. Um it's a delight.
21:38 Yeah, it's a delight. Or you know where are you with with that level of of maybe treatment, right?
21:44 But then again one of the nice things is is all natural products also have like very open weave. So they are actually pretty good at getting stains out of
21:52 Yeah. So you you don't want something that's too synthetic that hasn't been treated, right? Like that you think is tougher. So you're either going to go
21:59 all the way in or not at all because there there's some place in the middle that gets like stains and like holds on to like you know boogies in your nose
22:08 and all that other kind of stuff that you know comes out. Right. Yeah. Boogies. Yeah. Dealing with them now.
22:15 Yeah. It's the season. Yeah.
22:20 No, I did say it's like there's something about it. Like when I clean out his nose, I just feel like so rewarded. It's weird, but Yeah. We just don't want it on the
22:29 couch. We don't want the shadow. Look at what I got out. Yeah.
22:32 You should be happier, but you're screaming and crying. It's a proud mom moment. It is indeed.
22:36 Um well, this is awesome. Um really quickly, walk me through what you're inspired by right now. I'm ass sure
22:44 being a new mom is inspiring you when you go into people's homes now. But what else like beyond that? What else is inspiring you?
22:50 Gosh, colors.
22:51 Um, which we kind of talked about.
22:53 What do you want to see happening in the spring? What do you want to see happening this summer? I mean, warm stuff.
22:58 I've always, you know, I've always sort of liked tradition, you know. I think cuz we grew up in it. We grew up in the suburbs, Amanda and I, and so we have
23:07 this like taste for, you know, colonial New England.
23:10 Yeah. Yeah. Charm and Yeah. Um, Prince. Yeah, I I love a good print. I love some color. Yeah.
23:15 You know, I think I'm known for that more than I am for like um neutral rooms, but there is that trend, and I didn't speak about it earlier, but I can bring it up now. That sort of
23:23 Scandinavian modern is a big deal right now. And we're going from like, as we said, like maybe the whites of the Carreras to something that's a little more warm. Travertine is back. Um tumbled marbles are back.
23:34 So, um that's kind of inspiring, right?
23:37 And I have to say it's it's a personal journey inspiration. So, you got to really like get with the person that that you're either doing the project for and really understand them and what
23:45 you're doing to bring them out. But one thing that always inspires anything, and I think, you know, anyone could say
23:52 this, is travel, seeing something new, going to the theater, going to a museum, uh leaving the country, that's a huge
24:00 inspiration, going to a music concert, um you know, just getting outside your own head in your everyday, right? and kind of tasting something that isn't
24:07 necessarily like monotonous, like, "Oh, I haven't heard that music in a while." And now I'm like seeing the people that watch this type of band and they dress a
24:16 certain way and that's kind of cool. And maybe, you know, maybe you're at like Chris Stapleton and now all of a sudden you're seeing people that are more
24:23 country focused and like maybe there's fringe there and maybe there's, you know, um, hats and leather and and all of a sudden you become like, "Oh, I
24:32 should, you know, go back to that." Yeah. you know, so that's kind of an interesting thing to do. So I would say if you need inspiration, you know, pull it either from your own life or any
24:40 travels you've had or, you know, any like fine dining restaurants. They always have like the most majestic, you know, like scenes to like their tablescapes and their menus. Yeah. Yeah.
24:52 That's really fun, too. Yeah. Yeah.
24:54 Well, this is awesome. Thank you so much for coming. Tell everyone where they can find you in person and online.
24:59 Yeah. So, in person it is uh Tiger Lilies. at 255 Fieldpoint Road in Greenwich. So that's one place you can find me. You can find me on my email.
25:07 You can just email me in. And this is a tough one. Samantha TigerLillies Greenwich. You spell Tiger Lilies and Greenwich. You kind of sandwich them together and that's my email. And then
25:16 on Instagram and the socials, I'm trying to keep up with all that, but like it's not always like great. But tiger Lilies
25:23 Greenwich is one handle. And then Sknap Designs, which is a new account for me because I won't even get into it with
25:31 you guys. one of them got hacked and it got closed down. So um that's my new incarnation of my um design ideas and I
25:38 post a lot of things that are happening right now. We post a lot of like before and afters to inspire people. Um if you have a chair and you want to see it different and um I think that's that's
25:47 out there too. And one last thing I want to just bring out there when we talked about trends is AI.
25:53 Oh yeah. You must see this in all the homes like how to make this home like okay maybe it's not you're not walking this but let me show you what this can
26:01 be and um I think that the sales are sometimes really encouraged by that.
26:07 Like I had I'm going to say I have a client. She's been on the fence about her son's room and you know she wants to do a ditzy print with um which is like a
26:16 small print if you don't know what that means. Pardon me. And um a window treatment to match and she's been humming and hawing and her and her
26:23 husband are are on different pages and we've gone weeks and weeks and look I'm a business person. I want to close a sale. So I've been playing on AI. I put
26:31 the room in AI. I told it what to do and bam, we come up with this picture of what the room can look like. And then I just casually texted it to her. I'm like, I know you're busy, blah, blah,
26:39 blah, but this is what this room can look like. And she was like, "Oh my god, that's his room. That's it.
26:44 We're coming in. We'll see you Friday." So AI is a really big tool right now.
26:48 And I'm I'm happy about it, but I'm also a little bit worried about what, you know, what role it will have for people who are just creative on their own.
26:57 Like, you know, if you can do it, right?
26:59 If you say to me, if you say to AI, look, I'm a traditionalist. I want it to be like this. I want to have one sofa, two club chairs. What do you think?
27:06 Like, do you need the designer? And is a designer still going to be relevant? But I hope so. You know, I hope that there's something that we bring to the table
27:13 that's just a little bit special and um you know, and that goes to inspiration.
27:18 So, you got to get out there and live your life so that you can stay relevant. Now, I want to travel. Yeah.
27:22 Now, I want to go out to dinner and how about a plane to Italy. Thank you so much for coming.
27:26 Yeah, you're so welcome. And um thank you so much for listening. I'm Amanda Casease with Real Estate Case by Casease and we'll see you soon.